PHX - SAC - CHI

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Pardon my ignorance, but what's the logic behind this trade? For it's obviously accumulating draft capital, for it's a slam dunk home run, but what's the logic for ? They're giving away the best player and in addition a 1st, 2*1st pick swaps and 4*2nd. Getting rid of Devonte's 2 years of relatively sizeable contract shouldn't cost anywhere near that much.

I’ll let Kings speak for themselves but I’m going to point out that you completely ignored Herb Jones because he’s the logic behind this trade. Coby White’s value is skewed based on the fact that his agent will demand the max for him and no one is prepared to pay him $40-50m+. Whereas there is not one player in this league who is better than Herb on a better contract long term. He’s making MLE salary for the next 3 years, and with the cap increasing the next 2 years his salary will fall below the MLE. Not to mention his position eligibility in our league is top tier, based on our fantrax positioning pure guards hold the lowest value. Herb who is eligible for multiple positions, made all-nba defense 1st team IRL. It’s easy now to say Coby White is the best player in the trade, but given the contract he is expected, compared to what Herb is on, there shouldn’t be a question on who’s more valuable to a franchise long term. 

Not sure how Graham’s contract can be considered “sizeable”. It’s a horrible contract that would take a lot to get off the books. 

2023-2024 NBA Graham’s Average Stats:
Points: 5.0
Rebounds: 1.6
Assists: 2.1
FG: 35.2%
GP: 23
Fantrax FP/G: 29.27
Fantrax FPts: 683.45 

In the upcoming season he might not even see the floor once. Every trade is based on perspective but it would take a lot of picks to give an opposing GM an incentive to take on his horrible contract.

You do remember incorrectly. This was the very trade that sparked the creation of this rule. Like I said last year:



Onto more minor points:


That is my biggest regret in fact. Even though I tried very hard to reward minutes and +/-, it's still fantasy basketball:
Russ is God, Battier is average. Coby White is God, Herb is average.


I disagree. The problem with a horrible signing is that 1 person loses (even though they still believe they made the correct decision), while 29 other chuckle and move on. It's a minor problem. Nobody has any reason to complain.

The problem with a horrible trade is that 1 person wins. Thus all your rivals are screwed in the process.

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There is no need for or to provide more arguments. I would however value feedback from CBA experts not involved in the transaction.

I agree. 2028 1st-rounder is probably the best asset in this deal when you're paying 125m to the 40yo Steph and 36yo Kyrie.

But yeah, would be slightly losing a 1-for-1 Coby-for-Herb trade given their contracts. Nobody here is arguing otherwise.

that’s important to point out. Thanks

​In general, I have a hard time with trade reviews unless collusion is involved. I think it’s a slippery slope. Some ​views people have on players are right, some are wrong. Just like GMs IRL​ -- they are wrong ​all the time. Not to mention the opinions from fans that can make trades sound terrible for one team only for a couple years later to realize it was actually a great trade for that team. ​This isn't a CBA ​issue, it's opinions on players.​ I don’t think we should be controlling who we think is right and wrong​ on that. ​

That said, I can see all arguments on this one.​ I will let speak for themselves but part of the issue here is that tried many many many (many) times to put Cobe White on the block a​nd every time asked for a SF. The same Cobe White everyone is talking about now as this great player that everyone would want. And yet from all account​s there was no one making an offer or presenting anything even worth discussing.​That became the market for him which is important in all of this.

There was a ton that went into getting to the final trade, and Cobe White was certainly a sticking point on where he would land​. But he had to go somewhere to make it work. At the end, wanted a SF on a great contract ​A​ND desperately wanted off the graham contract. This trade got them both and they probably didn’t know if or when they would have that opportunity again.

​White's not getting the max next summer but he's going to get paid. And for and as it stands right now neither will be able to afford him. It may be a one year rental for .

I’m not here to strongly defend this either way. I definitely see where everyone is coming from​ and open to continuing the discussion.